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Goomba  
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 More options Jul 6, 4:37 am
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From: Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:37:48 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 4:37 am
Subject: Kitchen ReDo-Floors
I've mentioned here that we're updating/improving our kitchen. We've
ordered the cabinets and granite, and just purchased the new range (the
top rated gas model listed in Consumer's Reports recently) and over the
range microwave oven/hood. I'm looking for a bottom freezer refrigerator
but we can live with the old one until I find the perfect appliance at
the best price. Lighting changes and flooring are still undecided.

I'd love to hear input from folks who have tile as to how they love or
hate it? I currently have vinyl, but have had heated tile in the past. I
was younger then so might have been less aware of problems, but am
concerned with the "hardness" of the floor for comfort? I am getting
older now (sob!) and don't want to find tile floors are ergodynamically
poor choices down the road after standing in the kitchen for extended
periods. I recall my mother explaining how good dance floors are wood
and impact absorbing properties over hard cement floors that are more
jarring to your body. Yet wood floors aren't too practical in kitchens,
are they??  I'm also interested in linoleum as I keep reading that it
might be fairly "green" as well as good cost.

The floor choice would need to be practical for the kitchen, breakfast
room, mud room, laundry room and guest bathroom. The rest of the
downstairs is hardwood.

Thanks for any input :)
Goomba


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jmcquown  
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 More options Jul 6, 4:48 am
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From: "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 04:48:20 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 4:48 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The floor choice would need to be practical for the kitchen, breakfast
> room, mud room, laundry room and guest bathroom. The rest of the
> downstairs is hardwood.

> Thanks for any input :)
> Goomba

I personally have no problem with vinyl, although the people on HGTV would
cringe if you suggested it!  If you like wood you might consider bamboo.

Jill


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Giusi  
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From: "Giusi" <decobabe...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:24:07 +0200
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 5:24 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors
"Goomba" <Goomb...@comcast.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:6dbeiuF1ovg7U1@mid.individual.net...

I have been blaming "the day after" backaches on my age, but lately I have
been hearing much younger peiople claim it is the tile or stone floors we
all have.  Mind you, I don't experience it unless I have spent a 10 or 12
hour day working, so who knows?

If I were sure, then next kitchen I would use solid runner flooring, such as
is used in airports.  I'd consider bamboo, but my cutting board seems as
hard as tile.


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Bob Terwilliger  
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 More options Jul 6, 6:13 am
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From: "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:13:43 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 6:13 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

I recently wrote here that I'm looking into getting eucalyptus or cork
flooring for my kitchen. Both are quite comfortable for long stretches of
standing, and don't need a huge amount of maintenance. However, tile or
linoleum would be much better for a mud room. Maybe you could have a hard
floor in your kitchen and put down rubber mats to stand on when you're
cooking; that's what many professional kitchens do.

As I see it, the problem is that a breakfast room and guest bathroom are
more "presentation" spaces, where the kitchen, mud room, and laundry room
are more "industrial" spaces. If it were *me*, I'd have the same hardwood in
the breakfast room as in the rest of the house, I'd have soft wood in the
kitchen, I'd have tile in the guest bedroom, and I'd have painted concrete
in the mud room and laundry room.

Bob


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 More options Jul 6, 7:51 am
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From: ChattyCathy <cathy1...@mailinator.com>
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:51:35 +0200
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 7:51 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

Goomba wrote:

> I'd love to hear input from folks who have tile as to how they love or
> hate it?

I have tile flooring in the kitchen (and most of the house). I like it. It
looks good, is pretty hard wearing and if you spill something on it it's
easy to clean up in two ticks. I haven't found it any harder on my
back/legs than vinyl or hard wood in the kitchen (and I think I'm a tad
older than you <grin>). But... if you don't have under-floor heating it can
be a bit cold in winter.

Another thing I will point out about tile floors tho' - be aware that if you
drop any heavy cook-ware etc. on it in the kitchen the tiles may crack :(

For instance, I have a marble mortar and pestle. I put the pestle down on
the counter a bit too close to the edge when I was using it one day and I
managed to 'bump' it, somehow. It subsequently "rolled off" the counter
onto the tiles before I could catch it... I now have a (hairline) crack in
two tiles, and I don't have any spares (the previous owners put the
flooring in and didn't leave any 'extras')... It's not *that* noticeable,
you have to look pretty closely - but *I* know it's there, and it annoys
the heck outta me. However, it will mean replacing the whole
kitchen/laundry floor to fix it because I cannot get the same
design/pattern anymore, I've looked - sigh. I'm just not up for that at the
moment. It's not just the expense, it's the inconvenience of having the
kitchen 'out of action' while it's being re-done. So, if you do go for
tile, may I suggest you get a few extras and keep them - just in case?
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...


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Sheldon  
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From: Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:10 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors
On Jul 6, 4:37 am, Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:

I love my hardwood (Brazilian cherry) kitchen floor... I have the same
floor in a half bath and my laundry room too.. with the new space age
sealers and cleaning systems moisture is not a problem.  Whichever
material make sure to have the floor installed full room/wall to wall,
*before* cabinets/appliances go in, most especially if you choose
tile.

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Nancy Young  
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 More options Jul 6, 8:17 am
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From: "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:17:48 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:17 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

jmcquown wrote:
> Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> The floor choice would need to be practical for the kitchen,
>> breakfast room, mud room, laundry room and guest bathroom. The rest
>> of the downstairs is hardwood.
> I personally have no problem with vinyl, although the people on HGTV
> would cringe if you suggested it!

They put down vinyl tile often.

nancy


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 More options Jul 6, 8:29 am
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From: "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:29:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

Nancy Young <rjy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote:

> > > The floor choice would need to be practical for the kitchen,
> > > breakfast room, mud room, laundry room and guest bathroom. The
> > > rest of the downstairs is hardwood.

> > I personally have no problem with vinyl, although the people on HGTV
> > would cringe if you suggested it!

> They put down vinyl tile often.

> nancy

I only see them rip it up and put down slate or something similar.  I must
be watching the wrong shows!  And stainless appliances, UGH.  As in, UGLY.
Sorry, I just don't see the appeal.

Jill


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Edwin Pawlowski  
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 More options Jul 6, 8:33 am
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From: "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:33:11 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 6 2008 8:33 am
Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

"Goomba" <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> I've mentioned here that we're updating/improving our kitchen. We've
> ordered the cabinets and granite, and just purchased the new range (the
> top rated gas model listed in Consumer's Reports recently)

What brand/model would that be?

> I'd love to hear input from folks who have tile as to how they love or
> hate it? I currently have vinyl, but have had heated tile in the past. I
> was younger then so might have been less aware of problems, but am
> concerned with the "hardness" of the floor for comfort? I am getting older
> now (sob!) and don't want to find tile floors are ergodynamically poor
> choices down the road after standing in the kitchen for extended periods.
> I recall my mother explaining how good dance floors are wood and impact
> absorbing properties over hard cement floors that are more jarring to your
> body. Yet wood floors aren't too practical in kitchens, are they??  I'm
> also interested in linoleum as I keep reading that it might be fairly
> "green" as well as good cost.

We put sheet vinyl in our kitchen about 10 years ago.  Cleans easily, no
seams, still looks good.  It was the best bang for the buck at the time
since is was a "spruce up" rather than a re-do.

If cost was not a big consideration, I'd go with ceramic tile.  We put down
Italian quarry tile in our last kitchen and loved it.  Never used more than
a wet sponge mop to clean it and it always looked elegant. . It was a small
kitchen so it was affordable.

There are some wood products that may be worth checking out.  It certainly
looks good.  I'm not up on the latest so it may be good to visit the
flooring store for more information.


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Nancy Young  
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 More options Jul 6, 8:37 am
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From: "Nancy Young" <rjy...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:37:30 -0400
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Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors

I don't know what they think of it, they are putting in what sells.
People like it.  It's not for me.

nancy


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 More options Jul 6, 8:54 am
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From: enigma <eni...@evil.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:54:19 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: Kitchen ReDo-Floors
Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> wrote in
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 i have ceramic tile. i HATE it! it's hard. it's ugly (ceramic
scratches fairly easily. we have a farm, & the side door
enters into the kitchen, so mud & sand are constantly tracked
in). it's noisy. it's freaking *cold*! it's really hard to
clean, which surprised me. i figured it'd be tougher than
vinyl & just sweep clean. wrong! it's almost as easy to
scratch as vinyl & the grout joints collect dirt & stain
really easily. i'm not sure exactly how old my ceramic floor
is, but the grout is cracking &/or falling out in a lot of
places (granted it's laid right over a wide pine floor with no
underlayment or levelling). did i say i HATE it? it's going to
be a pain in the butt to get rid of it too.
 when i redo the kitchen i'll put in real linoleum. it's
comfortable, way warmer than tile, & easier to clean (no
joints, no cracks, no grout). then i'll get a Scooba ;)

 BTW, if you find a bottom freezer fridge that *doesn't* have
a drawer freezer, let me know. those drawers are just plain
useless.
lee

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I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.


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