Picked up a 16ga SxS hammer gun yesterday. Steel (not damascus) barrels. Nothing fancy, made by Crescent but it's in great mechanical shape.
Has the old 2 9/16" chamber length. I want to take it out to the standard 2 3/4" chamber. Brownell's wants $175 for the reamer, and I probably wouldn't use it twice in my lifetime.
Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for the job?
On Jul 5, 8:45 am, "BillM" <billma...@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi Bill,
> Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for the job?
I would check the working pressure of the 2-9/16" as the 2-3/4" will have a lot more grunt to push out the larger load. The barrel may not be designed to handle the CUP of 2-3/4".
> On Jul 5, 8:45 am, "BillM" <billma...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>>Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for the job?
> I would check the working pressure of the 2-9/16" as the 2-3/4" will > have a lot more grunt to push out the larger load. The barrel may not > be designed to handle the CUP of 2-3/4".
> Dave
I wouldn't give it a second thought.
Shotshell pressures are all in the 6000 to 10,000 psi range, and have been for about ever. Lengthening chambers has been a stock in trade for the smiths for about as long. The longer shells are mostly to deal with the newer styles of wads that replaced the felt washers the were used for eons. The payloads are not appreciably larger, typically on either side of an ounce.
If you think the barrels and action will take it, have at.
Good opportunity to build a nice long forcing cone onto the chamber, if it is not already.
FWIW, there were some write-ups done a while back in Double Gun Journal, on the pressure results from shooting 12G 2 3/4" shells, in old 2 1/2" chambers. The rise in pressure that came about was far less than had been predicted, and came as a bit of a shock to the hand-wringers that were predicting a disaster.
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:45:28 GMT, "BillM" <billma...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Picked up a 16ga SxS hammer gun yesterday. >Steel (not damascus) barrels. Nothing fancy, >made by Crescent but it's in great mechanical >shape.
>Has the old 2 9/16" chamber length. I want to >take it out to the standard 2 3/4" chamber. >Brownell's wants $175 for the reamer, and I >probably wouldn't use it twice in my lifetime.
>Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for >the job?
>Bill
Its doable, but its cheaper to rent the proper reamer
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Gunner, who has pondered doing this to his 1897 H. Piffer 12ga 2-1/12 x 40-64
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>> Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for the job?
>I would check the working pressure of the 2-9/16" as the 2-3/4" will >have a lot more grunt to push out the larger load. The barrel may not >be designed to handle the CUP of 2-3/4".
>Dave
They were nickle steel and Should be ok for light loads. NO Field Magnums. AA trap loads and the like.
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and at $28 it looks like I might go that way. Cheaper than $165 for a one-off job, and takes up very little of my time.
Agreed on the light loads. I've got 5 16's and that's all they get fed. I've got bigger shotguns if I want to go goose hunting, but there is just something about a slim light 16 that feels RIGHT for upland/quail/grouse.
"BillM" <billma...@verizon.net> wrote: >Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for >the job?
I'd be interested in the thickness of the metal from where your chamber ends to where the new one ends. If it doesn't change, I'd go for it, if it gets thinner, well there was a reason it was that thick at the end of the chamber.
Reloading might be safer if the metal gets thinner. You can make longer cases shorter.
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT), "Dave, I can't do that"
<davenp...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 5, 1:44 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:00:14 -0700 (PDT), "Dave, I can't do that"
>Hi Gunner,
>> They were nickle steel and Should be ok for light loads. NO Field >> Magnums. AA trap loads and the like.
>But that's my point. With a 2-9/16" shot shells it is impossible to >over load the design.
Actually..It IS possible to over load. Many handloaders increase the pressures considerably. But normal factory loads should be safe
>What happens if he reams it to 2-3/4" and later sells it? Or dies and >the estate is sold off. A death trap waiting for an innocent.
Hardly.
If someone if foolhardy enough to pump up the handloads for a 80 yr old mass produced to be cheap shotgun, its on his own head.
>I hate the phrase "should be OK" when it comes to guns and overloading >the design.
>Still each to his own.
>Dave
Indeed. Hence my comment about Field Magnums, which are verbage used around here at the least, to describe pumped up handloads
Shrug
Gunner
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>>Any good reason not to make a quick D reamer for >>the job?
>I'd be interested in the thickness of the metal from where your chamber ends to where the >new one ends. If it doesn't change, I'd go for it, if it gets thinner, well there was a >reason it was that thick at the end of the chamber.
>Reloading might be safer if the metal gets thinner. You can make longer cases shorter.
>Wes
Thats what I do with my H. Piffer. It came out of Africa..was a "forageing gun", shotgun on one side, rifle on the other, double hammers. The previous owner never did tell me what the rifled caliber was, but the barrel was sans any rifeling, so he sent it off to Oregon somewhere and had it rebored and rerifled to 40-64 Winchester, an evidently safe conversion considering Ive fired several thousands of rounds through that side.
I got about 10 boxes of ...humm...cant rember the manufacture...RWS? 2.5" shotshells, and Ive been shooting them up and reloading them on a MEC that I modified to load the short paper cases.
But its a pain in the ass anymore and I probably should ream it that extra 1/4" and forcing cone. Shrug...when I get a 'round tuit"
Gunner
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Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote: >Thats what I do with my H. Piffer. It came out of Africa..was a >"forageing gun", shotgun on one side, rifle on the other, double >hammers. The previous owner never did tell me what the rifled caliber >was, but the barrel was sans any rifeling, so he sent it off to Oregon >somewhere and had it rebored and rerifled to 40-64 Winchester, an >evidently safe conversion considering Ive fired several thousands of >rounds through that side.
>I got about 10 boxes of ...humm...cant rember the manufacture...RWS? >2.5" shotshells, and Ive been shooting them up and reloading them on a >MEC that I modified to load the short paper cases.
>But its a pain in the ass anymore and I probably should ream it that >extra 1/4" and forcing cone. Shrug...when I get a 'round tuit"
Sounds like a neat gun, one barrel short of being a drilling and a bit lighter than one.
