I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 degrees from each other through round tube. I came across these V blocks with clamps...
I assumed the best way to use them would be to set a fence up on a press table which centers the bit on the tube, clamp the two blocks to your piece, then once you do holes on one side you would flip the blocks over to the next side to get your holes 90 degrees to the first set. Or possibly use one block and a stationary v-block to put the other end of the tube into.
Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm missing?
Dave99 writes: > Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm > missing?
This is really two functions, cylindrical workholding versus 90-degree indicating.
Vee blocks are one suitable workholding device for cylindrical things. Use the clamps provided, or pinch the work against a vise jaw with the vee.
Assuming you don't have a precision rotary workholder like a rotary table or collet holder, you can mark 90 degrees accurately one time on your lathe chuck and thereafter hold the work in that for scribing. Or at the least you can wrap paper around the tube and divide that as a template.
Dave99 <dpdph...@aol.com> wrote: > I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 > degrees from each other through round tube. I came across these V > blocks with clamps...
> I assumed the best way to use them would be to set a fence up on a > press table which centers the bit on the tube, clamp the two blocks to > your piece, then once you do holes on one side you would flip the > blocks over to the next side to get your holes 90 degrees to the first > set. Or possibly use one block and a stationary v-block to put the > other end of the tube into.
> Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm > missing?
Sounds good to me.
Here's another grizzly item I noticed in their catalog the other day that could help with that set up...
Dave99 wrote: > I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 > degrees from each other through round tube. I came across these V > blocks with clamps...
> I assumed the best way to use them would be to set a fence up on a > press table which centers the bit on the tube, clamp the two blocks to > your piece, then once you do holes on one side you would flip the > blocks over to the next side to get your holes 90 degrees to the first > set. Or possibly use one block and a stationary v-block to put the > other end of the tube into.
> Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm > missing?
> Thanks,
> Dave
If the tube is small enough so you can get it with a 5C collet, you can use one of the handy square 5C collet blocks held against a vise stop in the milling vise. When you're done with one hole, loosen the vise, flip the block, slide it against the stop, tighten the vise and do the other hole.
>I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 >degrees from each other through round tube. I came across these V >blocks with clamps...
>I assumed the best way to use them would be to set a fence up on a >press table which centers the bit on the tube, clamp the two blocks to >your piece, then once you do holes on one side you would flip the >blocks over to the next side to get your holes 90 degrees to the first >set. Or possibly use one block and a stationary v-block to put the >other end of the tube into.
>Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm >missing?
>Thanks,
>Dave
Cheap spin indexer?
Gunner
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>> I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 >> degrees from each other through round tube. I came across these V >> blocks with clamps...
>> I assumed the best way to use them would be to set a fence up on a >> press table which centers the bit on the tube, clamp the two blocks to >> your piece, then once you do holes on one side you would flip the >> blocks over to the next side to get your holes 90 degrees to the first >> set. Or possibly use one block and a stationary v-block to put the >> other end of the tube into.
>> Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm >> missing?
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>If the tube is small enough so you can get it with a 5C collet, you can use >one of the handy square 5C collet blocks held against a vise stop in the >milling vise. When you're done with one hole, loosen the vise, flip the >block, slide it against the stop, tighten the vise and do the other hole.
Or simply drill/bore the proper sized hole for your tube, in the center of a rectangular block of steel, drill a hole in each of two sides, slide in the tube, drill, drop in a pin, turn the block over to the next hole and drill the second hole. Pull the pin, slide in the new tube, and repeat.
Cost is nothing to speak but about a half hour of your time
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Depending on the size and quantity of holes, use wood. It is cheap, easy and can hold tighter tolerances than you might think. To hold a tube, just drill a hole then cut a slit on the side of the wood that will not be in the vise, put a screw in for tightening. If you have trouble with the drill wobbling on the tube, go with a short bit or epoxy in a drill jig bushing. For small parts, I buy 2x2 hardwood blocks from Home depot, a cheap fix for holding parts that are easy to deform. Good for stand-offs as well.
> Is this the best way to accomplish this, or is there a better way I'm > missing?
What is the volume? Are you doing a part a day or a thousand parts a day? Somewhere in between?
If you have high volume, there is a better way. Drill from both sizes of the part at the same time... Probably the best way to do this is with an automatic drill set up. If the placement is really critical, you can retract the bits into drill bushings each time and have the bushings very close to the surface of the tube so that the deflection or "bending" of the drill "bit" is greatly minimized during the process. We have folks holding very close tolerances with simple set ups like this... But the cost is higher than a small drill press, that's for sure.
Low volume? The ideas shared by others are better than what I can type.
Let me know if I can help with the high volume solution - even if it means concept only and not a quote from me.
On Jul 5, 11:14 pm, Dave99 <dpdph...@aol.com> wrote:
> I've been looking for a more accurate way to drill sets of holes 90 > degrees from each other through round tube. > Dave
A simple way is to clamp the tube into the vee of angle iron and locate off the two flat sides. You can find the center by lightly pressing the middle of a 6" ruler against the tubing with the point of a drill. The drill is centered when the ruler sits level.
That gives good drill-press accuracy if done carefully, but nowhere nearly as accurate as a milling machine and an index or collet fixture.
